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it was president obama. because senator hagel's positions are identical to those of president obama, vice president sta major that obsol relevance the middle these nucl preventi weap posit cen r >> an awkwardly rea points f you t a it const are speaki that by reducing the siz nuclear a bad 5,000 who are th > about th >> yeah. >> and some of them clearly did senator k defender o but he knew what he was talking about an nuclear pol sen defense contractors. they wan the they want to keep the contracts. some of t score attack naive and dangerou tr suggested. but many of them are just it's nu decreasing relevance to the thre but here you threat. so when th chuck ha que think nuclear we we need, ca to t display today. >> in terms of how they fit in to broader conservative politics on this, isn't it true that more sort of establishment leading lights of republican foreign policy are much closer to chuck hagel on this? they've tried to make global zero into some communist thing, but aren't there a lot of big-name re
it was president obama. because senator hagel's positions are identical to those of president obama, vice president sta major that obsol relevance the middle these nucl preventi weap posit cen r >> an awkwardly rea points f you t a it const are speaki that by reducing the siz nuclear a bad 5,000 who are th > about th >> yeah. >> and some of them clearly did senator k defender o but he knew what he was talking about an nuclear pol sen defense contractors. they wan the they...
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kerry's job i think will be to serve obama's legacy, and he is going to have to work within an obama system that four years in is fairly well defined. the big issues are run out of the white house. they're run by a small group of people around the president, but it will be interesting to see how kerry changes the mix a bit. for example, you were just talking about hillary clinton and women's issues. kerry has been a leader on climate issues. will he be able to tip the scales a little bit in that direction and actually build on what the president said in his inaugural address about making climate a priority? >> kerry has said he wants to focus on the middle east, and that has been a deficit in terms of the israeli-palestinian track. certainly, i mean, the arab spring made it much more difficult, much more complicated, but some would argue made it more necessary. >> well, yeah. the middle east is also one of the drains that can suck all the oxygen out of the room. you know, you could get involved in it and get sucked down all these different kind of rabbit holes that exist in the middl
kerry's job i think will be to serve obama's legacy, and he is going to have to work within an obama system that four years in is fairly well defined. the big issues are run out of the white house. they're run by a small group of people around the president, but it will be interesting to see how kerry changes the mix a bit. for example, you were just talking about hillary clinton and women's issues. kerry has been a leader on climate issues. will he be able to tip the scales a little bit in...
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that's why president obama picked him. the two share similar views in philosophy as the obama administration attempts to define the role of the united states in the transition to a post-superpower world. their philosophy is this. the united states must get out of these massive land wars, iraq and afghanistan, and if possible avoid future large-scale war. despite all of the posturing and starcraft, hagel's nomination, well, is not in jeopardy. not one senator who previously voiced support for hagel has changed his or her mind. i think a lot of this has to do with jealousy. chuck hagel has an extraordinary background. very diverse. it all starts with being a combat veteran in vietnam. and of course educated under the g.i. bill. he understands veterans' issues and the possibility of what military war does, of course, to the guys on the ground. he has experience in washington and in the business world unparalleled to anybody on that senate armed services committee. he's a self-made guy in american business. this man has a resu
that's why president obama picked him. the two share similar views in philosophy as the obama administration attempts to define the role of the united states in the transition to a post-superpower world. their philosophy is this. the united states must get out of these massive land wars, iraq and afghanistan, and if possible avoid future large-scale war. despite all of the posturing and starcraft, hagel's nomination, well, is not in jeopardy. not one senator who previously voiced support for...
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it was president obama. because senator hagel's positions are identical to those of president obama, vice president biden, secretary of state kerry, in fact the vast majority of the security establishment in the united states. that we are stuck with an obsolete arsenal of nuclear weapons that have little relevance to the threats we face today of cybersecurity, of nuclear terrorism, of unrest in the middle east, and every dollar that we're spending on these nuclear weapons is taking money away from the troops, preventing us from giving the weapons that they really need. these senators are stuck in a position of defending a 120th century arsenal that has little relevance in today's world. >> and hearing them read their talking points about this today, awkwardly read these talking points as if they do not come naturally to them and they have been told to read them made me feel like the reason i wanted you to hear inhofe say it how awkwardly he said it is because it makes me wonder what constituencies these sena
it was president obama. because senator hagel's positions are identical to those of president obama, vice president biden, secretary of state kerry, in fact the vast majority of the security establishment in the united states. that we are stuck with an obsolete arsenal of nuclear weapons that have little relevance to the threats we face today of cybersecurity, of nuclear terrorism, of unrest in the middle east, and every dollar that we're spending on these nuclear weapons is taking money away...
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. >> endorsed barack obama. >> endorsed barack obama. of course. so, yeah, i think they're mad. i think john mccain is mad that this isn't his second term, and this is their chance to show it. >> he also broke very dramatically with the republican party during the iraq war, did not just -- was not a kind of loyal disenter, but was a loud, outspoken dissenter who got a lot of mileage, and they thought was sort of a publicity hound around being the official republican voice. that's -- this is where the republicans -- the bad blood for him begins. >> it should be said that john kerry has expressed a lot of the same doubts about the iraq surge as him, but he didn't commit -- >> that's it. the treatment of john kerry by john mccain versus chuck hagel and john mccain is night and day. we have to leave it there, but after the break top republicans m house and senate part way on a key debt ceiling bill. will the intraparty scism end in heartburn or heart break? for over 75 years people have saved money with...ohhh... ...with geico... ohhh...sorr
. >> endorsed barack obama. >> endorsed barack obama. of course. so, yeah, i think they're mad. i think john mccain is mad that this isn't his second term, and this is their chance to show it. >> he also broke very dramatically with the republican party during the iraq war, did not just -- was not a kind of loyal disenter, but was a loud, outspoken dissenter who got a lot of mileage, and they thought was sort of a publicity hound around being the official republican voice....
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was it obama's first debate? just a bad night, or was it a rope-a-dope, meaning he said i'd rather take the punches today, i'll still get a 14-10 vote out of that committee, but if i were to attack back, it's almost like ted kennedy in the old days when he was attacked by an opponent. he decided if i attack back, i'm in the mess with them. if i don't attack back, i'll be okay. >> i think it was a mistake. it was like obama's first debate. it's like let's not try to lose this thing. i don't think that works in sports. i don't think it works in politics. >> prevent defense wasn't the answer here. >> that's right. hagel has a good case for why he believes -- for goodness sake, the last ten years of american foreign policy, these disastrous wars reaffirm hagel's basic instincts about the danger of taking america into war casually. he should have made that case. that's why obama chose him. >> do you think he has an articulation problem? is this endemic? he's going to have to stick up to a lot of people in the world, f
was it obama's first debate? just a bad night, or was it a rope-a-dope, meaning he said i'd rather take the punches today, i'll still get a 14-10 vote out of that committee, but if i were to attack back, it's almost like ted kennedy in the old days when he was attacked by an opponent. he decided if i attack back, i'm in the mess with them. if i don't attack back, i'll be okay. >> i think it was a mistake. it was like obama's first debate. it's like let's not try to lose this thing. i...
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when hagel stumbled on iran saying the obama administration supports containment and calling iran an elected legitimate government. >> i've just been handed a note that i misspoke and said i supported the president's position on containment. if i said that, i meant to say that i obviously -- his position on containment, we don't have a position on containment. >> just to make sure your correction is clear, we do have a position on containment, which is that we do not favor containment. >> yet another example of a democratic senator having to correct chuck hagel. two topics dominated the hearing, one was iran and the other was something that members of the senate almost obsessively could not stop talking about. >> israel. >> of israel. >> israel. >> on israel. >> israel. >> israel. >> israel. >> israel. >> supporting of israel. >> israel. pro-israel. >> hagel repeatedly proclaimed support for israel, but at times even democrats wanted more reassurance. though hagel did prep sessions in advance, he appeared unprepared for questions that we all knew were coming. he was manhandled by sou
when hagel stumbled on iran saying the obama administration supports containment and calling iran an elected legitimate government. >> i've just been handed a note that i misspoke and said i supported the president's position on containment. if i said that, i meant to say that i obviously -- his position on containment, we don't have a position on containment. >> just to make sure your correction is clear, we do have a position on containment, which is that we do not favor...
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he was denied it again so he couldn't stand barack obama and can't stand anyone that barack obama nominates. and the surge was something that was his. i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander in chief, and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing or that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and patrick murphy, the former congressman of pennsylvania that served in iraq. both of those guys have been at the bottom of the pile as jack jacobs calls it, like hagel and mccain, you just view war differently. but the lesson these two men took from vietnam seems to be so different. hagel took the questioning, the same thing patrick murphy feels, being lied to and knowing that anger that your friends died for what you believe to be a lie. mccain seems to have taken something different from it. >> we're all different. here is chuck hagel in vietnam back in '68 when he went in. he was an enlisted soldier and rose to sergeant. a noncommissioned officer with the infantry, a grunt as the
he was denied it again so he couldn't stand barack obama and can't stand anyone that barack obama nominates. and the surge was something that was his. i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander in chief, and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing or that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and patrick murphy, the former congressman of pennsylvania that served in iraq. both...
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and then, of course, when barack obama was running, he was very not just controversial, but he went over, some said, over the edge and became really alienated from a lot of the leaders. there's no denying the force that he was in new york city. and the remarkable character that he was. >> absolutely. >> all those years. >> he was, donny, the face of new york for so long. >> he is. i grew up in the city. and i love him. and i actually think his way was an early, early precursor to probably the most, if not hillary clinton, loved politician today, chris christie, straight talking, who he is, the embodiment of a region, unapologetically, and obviously stylistically very different but kind of built from the same mold. he was one of the greatest. >> he was another of the generation of these guys, these leaders, that we're losing now to who served in world war ii, was drafted in 1943, landed on a beach in france in 1944, you know, by the time he was 20 something years old and then went on to do all these great things. and he was still, until the end, a fighter. he was smart. he was funny. he'd
and then, of course, when barack obama was running, he was very not just controversial, but he went over, some said, over the edge and became really alienated from a lot of the leaders. there's no denying the force that he was in new york city. and the remarkable character that he was. >> absolutely. >> all those years. >> he was, donny, the face of new york for so long. >> he is. i grew up in the city. and i love him. and i actually think his way was an early, early...
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obama hasn't fundamentally changed obama's political sfraukture. he goes onto declare that "republicans just have a perception problem with hispanics. a perception problem? does he understand the amount of change that we've seen happen in this country? and how people are not just talking about perception? but reality and the realities have changed? >> well, i think carl rove of 2012 needs to have a conversation with carl rove of 2004 when he realized in 2004, carl rove nuf that he needed the hispanic vote. and he recognized he didn't need every single catholic and he didn't need every single person of color. he just needed a percentage off the top in order to move the republican agenda forward. since then, the republican party has gone off the deep enld. and they're also losing, as a result of caterering to the tea party so quickly. they're also actually losing a lot of moderate republicans. not only is the country more diverse, its's younger and it has a lot of single women and it has asians running and african americans and latinos. it's a whole
obama hasn't fundamentally changed obama's political sfraukture. he goes onto declare that "republicans just have a perception problem with hispanics. a perception problem? does he understand the amount of change that we've seen happen in this country? and how people are not just talking about perception? but reality and the realities have changed? >> well, i think carl rove of 2012 needs to have a conversation with carl rove of 2004 when he realized in 2004, carl rove nuf that he...
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certainly the highest in the obama administration. she's one of the most recognized women in the world, one of the most admired. some of her greatest accomplishments really were just showing up. the old woody allen line. she went to places no secretary of state had gone. she went bucketing about back roads through africa and all kinds of places that a secretary of state might not necessarily be seen to do kind of retail diplomacy. she brought i think a politician's flair to this of kind of glad handing and handshaking and doing a personal style of diplomacy that people around the world and certainly people at the state department really appreciated. >> now, kiki, i know we don't like to speculate about 2016. i know. i know. >> why not? >> i know, i know. >> it's so fun. >> kiki, i want to ask you a question. one of the things that strikes me, everybody sort of says, well, if she gets in, she'll be the nominee. this idea of inevitability i actually think was harmful to her the last time, and so i really personally don't like that conve
certainly the highest in the obama administration. she's one of the most recognized women in the world, one of the most admired. some of her greatest accomplishments really were just showing up. the old woody allen line. she went to places no secretary of state had gone. she went bucketing about back roads through africa and all kinds of places that a secretary of state might not necessarily be seen to do kind of retail diplomacy. she brought i think a politician's flair to this of kind of glad...
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but i still think democrats are going to get behind him, because obama wants him and obama really likes him and that's sort of all that matters and the republicans aren't going to filibuster him as roy blunt laid out this morning. >> does it boil down to money though? it's about the defense cuts coming. >> i just think it was kind of a bad day for the impression of politics and political theater for any american people who are watching that. there's already enough of a view that the senate -- and the house even more so, are kind of these dysfunctional partisan bodies with all this bickering. and that's kind of what you saw yesterday. probably for most people, that was the most chuck hagel they have seen in a long time and i can't imagine they were very impressed by it. look, on the budgetary side, i actually think chuck hagel can really help in bringing down the defense budget, but doing so in ways that are smart, unlike the sequester, which are across the board spending cuts, absolutely make no sense. >> before we let you go as the former spokesperson for outgoing secretary ray la hood
but i still think democrats are going to get behind him, because obama wants him and obama really likes him and that's sort of all that matters and the republicans aren't going to filibuster him as roy blunt laid out this morning. >> does it boil down to money though? it's about the defense cuts coming. >> i just think it was kind of a bad day for the impression of politics and political theater for any american people who are watching that. there's already enough of a view that the...
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people aren't afraid of obama care or numbers low or what do you think? >> well, health care is kind of -- it did well -- i don't believe there was a month even in the great recession when we were losing 700,000 jobs a month and health care did not add jobs. the job increasing pressures in the health care sector are just unrelenting because there's so much demographic pressure and half of health care spending is from the government side. look. in retail, i agree with peter. fourth quarter gdp and decent personal income retail growth. >> let's talk about the fourth quarter gdp. first time of a decline since 2009 and when you look in to the numbers consumer spending was up, business spending on equipment is up. housing equipment was up. federal government spending was down by an annual rate of 15% so how much of a drag is actually cuts to federal government spending on the economy right now? >> we can quantify that. took about 1.25 points off the g d gp growth. i think these are one offs meaning i think once we get revised numbers we find out that the econo
people aren't afraid of obama care or numbers low or what do you think? >> well, health care is kind of -- it did well -- i don't believe there was a month even in the great recession when we were losing 700,000 jobs a month and health care did not add jobs. the job increasing pressures in the health care sector are just unrelenting because there's so much demographic pressure and half of health care spending is from the government side. look. in retail, i agree with peter. fourth quarter...